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Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:31 pm
by dlarson
Sorry Zelph, my mistake.
Anyhow, that thread is exactly what I was thinking! :D Although, I was leaning more towards hose clamps than the DIY device pictured. My concern about the hose clamps is that they would be to difficult to turn with a fiddly little wire and knob.

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:08 pm
by zelph
dlarson wrote:Sorry Zelph, my mistake.
Anyhow, that thread is exactly what I was thinking! :D Although, I was leaning more towards hose clamps than the DIY device pictured. My concern about the hose clamps is that they would be to difficult to turn with a fiddly little wire and knob.
I'd like to see a closeup of the device they use. Let's see if we can encourage someone to take a photo :D

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:40 pm
by irrationalsolutions
so thats how it works, interesting. now this may seem dumb to you but what is an exceptable weight for a alcohol stove. the reason i ask is i dont seem to mind carrying a couple more pounds than you guys. but i do try to save weight and space where i can i dont want a 40lb pack either. i have been thinking about away to add a ajustment to the afterburner but that would add weight and i was wondering on what basis ya'll judge on. and i know you judge because there is a stove of the month club. i'm nowhere near that caliber yet but i want to learn.

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:48 pm
by zelph
irrationalsolutions wrote:so thats how it works, interesting. now this may seem dumb to you but what is an exceptable weight for a alcohol stove. the reason i ask is i dont seem to mind carrying a couple more pounds than you guys. but i do try to save weight and space where i can i dont want a 40lb pack either. i have been thinking about away to add a ajustment to the afterburner but that would add weight and i was wondering on what basis ya'll judge on. and i know you judge because there is a stove of the month club. i'm nowhere near that caliber yet but i want to learn.
An exceptable weight of a stove is in the eyes of it's beholder.

Many cut back on the size of their stove and regret it later only to say: My pot won't balance on such a small stove, it keeps falling off. :o

You qualify to enter into the stove of the month forum.

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:25 pm
by dlarson
irrationalsolutions wrote:...what is an exceptable weight for a alcohol stove.
As Zelph says, it's up to you. That being said, one reason people carry alcohol stoves is to reduce weight. I would think an alcohol stove would have to be a real beast to weigh as much as other stove types out there. I have two different stoves I tend to use when I go out hiking. I just checked and one is .3ozs and the other is .45ozs.

That being said, an alcohol stove with a bottle of alcohol isn't necessarily lighter than a canister stove or solid fuel tablets when measured over longer hikes.

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:36 pm
by irrationalsolutions
well then as soon as my arm is better i'll start work on an idea its just going to be too labor intensive for one hand. but i was thinking about making something that works like the shutter of a camera that can be adjuster while the stove is burning to restrict the air flow to my afterburner stove on the bottom. it might make the temp change i dont know but it wil give me something to do. and by the way my first canister stove came today. so the tinkering will begin shortly.

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:56 pm
by oops56
irrationalsolutions wrote:well then as soon as my arm is better i'll start work on an idea its just going to be too labor intensive for one hand. but i was thinking about making something that works like the shutter of a camera that can be adjuster while the stove is burning to restrict the air flow to my afterburner stove on the bottom. it might make the temp change i dont know but it wil give me something to do. and by the way my first canister stove came today. so the tinkering will begin shortly.
Put a stove pipe damper in the bottom or near the top

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:14 pm
by irrationalsolutions
i thought about that but you should see this thing in real life. it has a really good and strong air flow that thing would just spin and spin and spin. i need something for it that only moves side to side. i dont like to throw anything away so im sure i have something to canibilize to get some ideas and or parts. but oops that was a good idea thats the first thing i thought of too but this stove is a weird little thing.

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:10 pm
by zelph
irrationalsolutions wrote:i thought about that but you should see this thing in real life. it has a really good and strong air flow that thing would just spin and spin and spin. i need something for it that only moves side to side. i dont like to throw anything away so im sure i have something to canibilize to get some ideas and or parts. but oops that was a good idea thats the first thing i thought of too but this stove is a weird little thing.
Cover half the bottom with aluminm tape just for the fun of it to see what effect it has. It's ok if the glue melts half way through the burn :mrgreen:

Re: alcohol stove questions

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:26 pm
by oops56
Fill the bottom pot stand with fiberglass insulation put stove on it to act as a air filter.