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RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:25 am
by zelph
I used the "StarLyte" stove burner as the basis of this remote fueled stove. The burner is 1/2 the height of the original StarLyte.

You can pour in 1/2 ounce of fuel directly into the stove and heat 2 cups of water for a quick heating.

For longer uninterupted heating of water or simmering of large quantities of food for groups you would connect the remote fuel source and the fuel would be fed to the underside of the burner via the fuel tube. The fuel tube remains attached to the stove to prevent wear on the tubes connection. For storage just coil up the tube as shown in the photos.

This is just a prototype just to show you whats in the works.

I'll show the fuel container soon. It has a micro adjustment to regulate the fuel. The adjustment is made inline at the fuel container for easy access during cooking. Regulating the flame remotely will be easy.

Weight of stove without tubing is 1.4 ounces. It's made of steel to withstand the heat as the flames pass the support legs. The support legs will easily support 2 gallons of water if needed.

The stove is vesatile, boil two cups or 2 gallons. 2 cups without the fuel line hook-up, just dump in the fuel and light. The stove has the same fuel absorbing material as the original StarLyte for even distribution of flame to pot.

I'll show fire under the stove as photos and video are taken.

Stove dimensions are:

2.75 inches tall and 2.5 inches in diameter. The base is such that it will have minimum sinking into soft soil. Has a very nice footprint for support.

Parts are readily available for all DIY'ers. Just by looking at the photos you can see how easy it is to make at home. Those of you that have made the StarLyte are close to having a remote fueled unit.

When I have time I'll make a list of materials and where to obtain them.

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This stove will not be submitted into the stove of the month club competition.

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:08 pm
by realityguy
Nice looking stove!Excellent idea for hose storage ...I'm wondering about the adjustment of the flame?..what type of time element does it take for the effects of the adjustment to take place?(Just for discussion sake,I'm not making any of that design.)I'm just wondering because I'm thinking anything with a wick or material soaking up alcohol might take quite a while for the flames to reduce.
I was thinking somewhat on the same lines(bottom fueled for safety,no flame at the hose with maybe a "trap" inline for more safety,sent an email to IR about it a few days ago) but maybe an open pool in a funnel shaped burner with the surface level being reduced in diameter by the fuel level to control the size of the flame pretty quickly..like a coleman funnel or something V shaped,maybe flatter.
Sorry,Just thinking out loud.. :lol: ..Anybody want to think about that..be my guest!

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:31 pm
by Mister Krabs
Bravo, can't wait to see the full production setup.

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:44 pm
by hoz
The KISS principle in action. I like it!

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:39 pm
by Irvingdog
Looks cool.

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:12 pm
by zelph
I have not tested how fast it will go from fast to slow.

This type of stove is for large amount of cooking or very very long simmering.

We must remember that the Trangias hold 3 ounces of fuel and that equates to a lot of cooking time or simmering.

We don't need remote fuel supply unless we go for long uninterupted cooking times.

Remote fueling has it's down side. The "Fiddle Factor" comes into play. Are we ready to fiddle around with fuel lines, testing the flow control systems to adjust them to the rate of burn that's required for the burners that you make.

I have another remote design that should be complete tomorrow. I'll post it and then you can see the diference in fuel supplying to the burner.

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:31 pm
by Ridgerunner
Nice concept Zelph. I like it ! are the pot stand and hose base epoxyed together? I'm going to have to hit the library this weekend. :lol: I'm not sure of the entire setup but I would put an inline shutoff valve close to the stove to conserve a bit more fuel when close to shutting down the burner. As usual, nicely done ! ;)

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:42 am
by irrationalsolutions
nice stove! it looks well made.

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:01 am
by Cphobes
zelph wrote:I have not tested how fast it will go from fast to slow.

This type of stove is for large amount of cooking or very very long simmering.

We must remember that the Trangias hold 3 ounces of fuel and that equates to a lot of cooking time or simmering.

We don't need remote fuel supply unless we go for long uninterupted cooking times.

Remote fueling has it's down side. The "Fiddle Factor" comes into play. Are we ready to fiddle around with fuel lines, testing the flow control systems to adjust them to the rate of burn that's required for the burners that you make.

I have another remote design that should be complete tomorrow. I'll post it and then you can see the diference in fuel supplying to the burner.
I'm still not sold on this remote fueling fad that has started. Tinny's first few were pretty interesting and simple (choke hazard). Interesting concept, even the others that were posted here were again interesting and simple (forget their names sorry).

However I think you're absolutely right, "Fiddle Factor" and moving away from the KISS principle will most likely keep some people away.

Something like the BIOS or Cobalt or just a simple Pepsi can stove. Dump in the fuel, light it, boil your water. Efficency? Unless you're hiking the AT, a difference of 1/4 ounce of fuel per meal is not likely to over load your pack. 3 day trip, 9 meals if you cook for all, 9*0.25=2.25 ounces more or less very little weight difference.

For me the ideas are great and cool to see but realistically from my limited experience when your cold and need hot water the last thing you want is "Fiddle Factor".

I did a short one night trip with the Boy Scouts in November and in the morning we had to heat up water. Fiddling even with light pot stands and delicate windscreens took time with really cold fingers. I think most of the white gas stoves were up and pouring out the heat (nice for those fingers! :) real quick.

Just my thoughts on the new fad in stoves.

-Stephen

p.s. I said the same thing to Tinny as well

Re: RF StarLyte Stove

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:32 pm
by zelph
Cphobes , this set-up would be good for purifying water in large quantity. Also would be good for a base camp. I do base camp and bushwack most of the time. This set-up is good for me when not using wood as my fuel source.(most of the time). My fuel container is a positive supply source and I'm confident it will provide a safe supply of fuel.

p.s., he deleted your comment, wonder why!!!