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Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:01 am
by therealtrevor_nz
I can't find a video of it but in Schindler's List there's a scene where a guy is fabricating hinges. Have a look at this http://members.citynet.net/sootypaws/Bl ... inge1.html and the following pages. On page 2 there's a dye which rolls the eye of the hinge, into which the pin is fixed. I thought about making hinges for a stove but tabs and slots seemed more achievable...

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:29 pm
by zelph
Thanks, the making of a hinge photos was really educational.


Finishing the Hinge
When the hinge is ready, a hot finish of beeswax and raw linseed oil is used. The hinge is examined when cool and sometimes has to be reheated, wire wheeled and refinished if there are scale “pops.” The scale is what gives the hinge its black finish when the oil and wax are applied. If scale is popped, that area will show as a shiny silver spot.
How about that??? good to know how it's done.

I couldn't think of an easy way to make a clean looking slot in stainless steel. The tab part would be easy.

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:08 pm
by Vibe
zelph wrote: hehe, it went from squirrel to moose. Not bad!!!! :mrgreen:
If it gets to moose AND squirrel...It gets a new name

The Borris Badinov Stove. :D

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:32 pm
by zelph
Vibe's right, here's Badanov at his best.

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Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:22 pm
by Ridgerunner
therealtrevor_nz wrote:I can't find a video of it but in Schindler's List there's a scene where a guy is fabricating hinges. Have a look at this http://members.citynet.net/sootypaws/Bl ... inge1.html and the following pages. On page 2 there's a dye which rolls the eye of the hinge, into which the pin is fixed. I thought about making hinges for a stove but tabs and slots seemed more achievable...
Having the right tool for the job sure does make life simplier ! ;) Good info link !

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:17 pm
by therealtrevor_nz
The honeystove http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product410.asp uses tabs but instead of slots, it just has tabs facing the opposite way, which the other tabs slot into. Pretty easy to make it that way at home. Hey, you could even do it with half of a hacksaw blade!

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:20 pm
by zelph
I made my stove with .007 stainless steel. My first impression is the tab method would be very unstable. It would definately need a top and bottom piece to stabilize.

I used a full length hinge pin to join the sections and made it pretty stable once the pot was on.

What is your game plan on the one you're going to build? Will you use 1/2 hacksaw blade? :D

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:40 pm
by therealtrevor_nz
The honeystove uses slots in the side panels to support the base. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrGr2z66a8U (skip to 2.55 where the assembly starts). Seems pretty stable to me. I do like the idea of a collapsible/hinged setup but the hinges do seem a bit overly complicated for a simple design.
What about using thin stainless steel sheet for the frame, and something thinner, like oven liner tray, to hold the fire in? Currently the sides hold the pot up and they do it well, but it seems like a lot of metal to do the same job as the sides would do if they were all like the fire door on the honey stove, but lined with oven sheet. Does that make sense?

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:59 pm
by DarenN
you would find that oven liner would not last more than one fire till it burned through.

Re: Compak Wood Burner

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:45 am
by therealtrevor_nz
By oven liner I mean a substantial foil tray which you put in the bottom of the oven to catch drips etc, not standard aluminium foil. Is that what you thought I meant? I've had foil burn through as you said but the thicker stuff seems up to the job. I'll give it a test sometime.

I tested a tornado type idea today and it worked to a point but not quite how I'd like. I designed it because of the persistent wind here, but found I had to turn it to follow the wind, which kept changing. I'm making one with a fan instead as wind assisted cooking doesn't look as promising as I hoped!