Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by Tamerlin » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:56 pm

I didn't try the goto again yet, but I did use the same bottle to put some fuel on my Superstove, and it lit with one flick from a firestarter. I'll try the Goto again in a bit.

One thing I'm curious about, is the pot stand supposed to slide up and down, or should it be fixed? Mine's sliding... ???

Aargh... I really like this stove's burn time and heat output, so this is very frustrating. (And disappointing.)
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by Tamerlin » Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:50 pm

I tried it again a little while ago, and it lit more easily than in my earlier attempts. My (unconfirmed) theory is that the pot stand had slid down (could be that I squashed it a bit too much?) far enough to prevent the alcohol from flowing into the burner chamber where the wick is.
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by realityguy » Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:47 pm

I don't use that stove..make my own..but if that potstand slides up and down a little.I'd hold it up a little to fill the stove,then shove it down to use..however..I wouldn't think it would make much difference as to alcohol getting to that curtain inside.Did you ever have a boil-over where water might have run down onto the curtain inside..appears it may have gotten wet somehow.Maybe that's the problem..I would think a good burn would dry it out..or set in front of a heater(vent in your car?)or fan...
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by zelph » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:21 pm

Tamerlin wrote:I didn't try the goto again yet, but I did use the same bottle to put some fuel on my Superstove, and it lit with one flick from a firestarter. I'll try the Goto again in a bit.

One thing I'm curious about, is the pot stand supposed to slide up and down, or should it be fixed? Mine's sliding... ???

Aargh... I really like this stove's burn time and heat output, so this is very frustrating. (And disappointing.)
Not suppose to, but it's ok if it does. Once the fuel is poured into the stove wait 1 min for the fuel to seep into the inner portion of the double wall for ful, fast light up. fuel is absorbed into the fiberglass between the pot support and the stove wall also. I always use long, wooden kitchen matches to light the stove. In warn summer temperature the alcohol should be lighting without any problems.

A wind screen would be helpful to aid in starting.

I really don't believe in "bad fuel"

I say wind was the main reason it didn't light. It's doing ok now :? must be a stove gremlin up in the mountains. Sasquatch breathing behind you or something on that order :mrgreen:

Low atmospheric pressure has a bad effect on fire starting, was it just prior to a storm front moving in? Are you right or left handed? If you are left handed that may have been the reason. ;)
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by ConnieD » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:13 pm

I say wind was the main reason it didn't light. It's doing ok now :? must be a stove gremlin up in the mountains. Sasquatch breathing behind you or something on that order :mrgreen:

Low atmospheric pressure has a bad effect on fire starting, was it just prior to a storm front moving in? Are you right or left handed? If you are left handed that may have been the reason. ;)
I always have heavy-breathing sasquatches sneak up behind me when I try to use matches in the mountains. However, I am left-handed, and so, that may be the explanation. I will watch out for sasquatches to test your theory, zelph.

I do have slightly better "luck" with REI Storm matches. The fact is, I don't rely on matches. I have a UST Blast Match, a big fat firesteel I scrape across the top edge of the stove, as zelph has demonstrated, and I have been looking in at REI at the Soto Pocket Torch with an extension for the flame I may purchase.

I also have a problem with lighting a stove or a fire because of low atmospheric pressure as a storm front is moving in. Maybe less oxygen at altitude, in a low pressure atmospheric system?

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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by Tamerlin » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:33 pm

I don't THINK that I got it wet, but it's possible. It might explain why the stove refused to light while I was out, but lit just fine the next day.
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by zelph » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:10 am

the Soto Pocket Torch with an extension for the flame I may purchase.
Connie, those things look pretty cool and should be of benefit to a left hander :mrgreen: I'm not sure Storm Matches are the best for fires. I need to do some testing on them.

Tamerlin, it's good news that the stove is now working the right way. :D
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by Tamerlin » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:44 am

I'm glad also... I'm probably going to get another one so that I have a spare to tool around with and do some experimenting, because it's a great stove :)

I also recently got a Caldera Cone ULC to use as a windscreen (also, I wanted the fire burning option), and I would very much prefer to use my Super Stove or Goto Stove in it rather than the 12-10 stove (nothing against the 12-10, but it's not much of a competitor to either of the Zelph stoves I have).

I also figure that if I can find a setting with the simmer sleeve that works for frying, the Caldera Cone will make a nice, stable stand for a frying pan -- the one thing that I found that made cooking pancakes on the Goto awkward... the handle has just enough weight to unbalance the frying pan on the Goto :)
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by zelph » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:14 am

Tamerlin wrote:I'm glad also... I'm probably going to get another one so that I have a spare to tool around with and do some experimenting, because it's a great stove :)

I also recently got a Caldera Cone ULC to use as a windscreen (also, I wanted the fire burning option), and I would very much prefer to use my Super Stove or Goto Stove in it rather than the 12-10 stove (nothing against the 12-10, but it's not much of a competitor to either of the Zelph stoves I have).

I also figure that if I can find a setting with the simmer sleeve that works for frying, the Caldera Cone will make a nice, stable stand for a frying pan -- the one thing that I found that made cooking pancakes on the Goto awkward... the handle has just enough weight to unbalance the frying pan on the Goto :)
Use wire cloth from the hardware store to make a pot support the same height as the goto. Make the diameter 1" smaller than the fry pan.
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Re: Zelph's "GoTo" Alcohol Stove

Post by ConnieD » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:12 pm

I have Storm Matches. I don't think they are so great. I think Storm Matches are better than other matches however.

The Soto Torch is for inserting a BIC, good for leftys or rightys. :roll:

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