Full Metal Jacket .333

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Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by zelph » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:21 pm

I did a quick video to show everyone what I've been working on.

this is a bottle pot with a heat grabber. I did several tests using ISO91. boiled 2 cups of water with 1/3 ounce of fuel. First time ever to get a boil with under 1/2 ounce of fuel. The full metal jacket grabs heat and radiates(infra red) it to the bottle. It protects the bottle from wind which prevents heat loss. Most of the heat/flames goes up through the double wall and out the holes at the top as seen in the video.

.333 ounce of fuel, whoda thunk it!!!

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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by teemo » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:45 am

I bet it would work even better if you insulated the heat sheild. Aerogel insulation is now available in strips and this company rven offers free samples.

http://www.thermablok.com/

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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by realityguy » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:22 pm

Interesting concept..I'm assuming the stove is now an integral part(attached permanently) of the bottle..why not!One less thing to pack separate and forget.. :roll:
Fueling..okay gotta use a special cut plastic cup, right?..but it is only 1/3rd oz of fuel needed...How about making some small plastic premeasured packs of 1/3 oz fuel..like McDonalds ketchup packs! :mrgreen: :roll:
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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by Ridgerunner » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:51 pm

It is working like a "Ring of Fire" with a heat shield. What keeps the shield from sliding down right on the wick?
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Post by realityguy » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:59 pm

Okay..where's your MBD fiberglass wick ring for picking it up and pouring? :roll:
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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by zelph » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:18 pm

teemo wrote:I bet it would work even better if you insulated the heat sheild. Aerogel insulation is now available in strips and this company rven offers free samples.

http://www.thermablok.com/
I agree, it would certainly increase it's fuel efficiency. Amazing product, thank you "space program" :D
Okay..where's your MBD fiberglass wick ring for picking it up and pouring?
That product/action is now known as "Urban Legend" "Old Wives Tale" it' doesn't work, only makes the pot heavier. what a rip-off!!!

I watched the video again.............looks cool how all the flame is sucked up the "chimney"........watch it again

when I get back from vacation, I'll try wrapinf it with the special product I have that I used on the waffer/cookie stove.

Notice I use photobucket on my protypes before releasing to you tube. too many copy cats out there that don't give credit. :o :mrgreen:
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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by Caesar » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:49 pm

Nice design! I know Tinny was playing around with almost the exact same thing a while ago, but abandoned it to focus on the Choke Hazard. Nice to see old designs being reused. I guess even Tinny's crumbs are another man's dinner! :)

Are you going to sell this set-up, Zelph? I wouldn't mind buying one, ya know to support the little stovemakers instead of buying MBD all the time.

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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by realityguy » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:05 am

:roll: ...That "Choke Hazzard"..Hmm..must be shaped like his foot... :lol:
I guess for the people that don't know me,I better rephrase and simplify my previous post for the zombies..Zelph..are you going to add a bail or something to pick up the hot bottle? Use a silicone glove or potholder?
How about a collapsible(clipable to a pack) handle like a thermos or lunch pail one on the side of the outside liner..or even a small mounting loop for a carabiner hanging somewhere for packing/holding/pouring. That's a pretty hot item to pour from.. :roll: I know you'll come up with something simplified,original,and brilliant. ;)
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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by Caesar » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:24 pm

realityguy wrote::roll: ...That "Choke Hazzard"..Hmm..must be shaped like his foot... :lol:
I guess for the people that don't know me,I better rephrase and simplify my previous post for the zombies..Zelph..are you going to add a bail or something to pick up the hot bottle? Use a silicone glove or potholder?
How about a collapsible(clipable to a pack) handle like a thermos or lunch pail one on the side of the outside liner..or even a small mounting loop for a carabiner hanging somewhere for packing/holding/pouring. That's a pretty hot item to pour from.. :roll: I know you'll come up with something simplified,original,and brilliant. ;)
I think in Tinny's design, the bottle had a locking ring that held the heat shield on. The heat shield stayed cool on the outside because Tinny coated it with a refractory ceramic, so you could pick up the pot by the heat shield without a problem. The ceramic coating also insulated the shield, making it more effective, but it was somewhat heavier so Tinny ditched it. Cool idea though.

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Re: Full Metal Jacket .333

Post by Ridgerunner » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:46 pm

Welcome Caesar! Glad to have you here. You seem to be in the know about Tinnys doings. What ever happened to Tinnys blog where you could leave your feedback? I am not a big fan of the bottle pot as it would be very difficult to clean. I suppose it has its applications; mostly for boiling water but at some point a bottle brush will be needed. :roll:
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