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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:36 am

by Abela » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:56 am

Unless you are needing to sterilize water, forget about the whole "water must be boiling" aspect.

Just a bunch of marketing crap that has come about over the years as companies need to define a base-line for how fast their stoves work.

In the real world (*cough* out on the trail *cough*) a hiker never ever needs to bring their water to a boil, unless they are in a situation where they need to sterilize water or are melting snow.

I suppose there might be some out there who enjoy eating their food when it contains 195(f) or hotter water, but I have never meet anybody who did.

And I am not sure I have ever encountered anybody who consumed their coffee/tea at 195+ degrees either.

The vast majority of dehydrated meals will reconstitute just as fast in 175 degree water as it will in 195 degree water. It has more about ToC (time of contact) than it does temperatures.

So, if you can at least get the bottom of these bags to reach a temperature of 175'ish (which is what appeared in the videos) you should be good to go.
It's interesting how this bag thing started out and how it wound up in the end. :D

I bought a hundred of the bags thinking they might be a dual purpose item. 1st a containment bag for esbit. At home you could take them out of the original foil/plastic packs and then put them in the bag for the duration of your hike. No odor to leak out into your clothing etc. thats in your pack. No plastic packages to bring home. I've been testing the ability of these bags to confine the odor. It's amazing how well they work. It's a plastic bag that has an aluminum outer covering. I suspect the odor/chemicals can't migrate through the dense metal as they can though soft, pliable plastic.

2nd The bags are made to withstand opening and closing many times and their bottom widen out so they can stand upright on their own. I like the fact they can be eaten out of like a bowl. I personaly will use them to cook scrambled eggs in. Hard boiled eggs are good but, scrambled with catsup is the best :D

I've been boiling water for such a long time I never have to watch it boil when I'n out and about on an adventure. I know what my stove equiment can do. I dump the fuel in, light, put the pot on and surround with windscreen. I then walk away and when I return the flame is out and the water is good to go. I'm not concerned if it boiled or not. I know at least it was pasturized. I dump the water in the freezer bag, close it and I'm off to do something else while it rehydrates. If it don't rehydrate all the way, so what. I'm usually so hungry it won't matter. :D
Just a bunch of marketing crap that has come about over the years as companies need to define a base-line for how fast their stoves work.


That is correct. It seems like speed is what a large percentage of hikers are looking for. When I started making stoves I was concerned with keeping it simple. The Supercat was my inspiration. One piece, doesn't get any better than that. From the Supercat came the StarLyte, the Fancee Feest, the Cobalt and then the Cobalt Blue Solist and don't forget the GoTo stove. Last but not least the Super Stoves. All simple stoves, all one piece.
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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:33 pm

Sorry for the delay.

The Esbitmizers are now back in stock.

Use this link for paypal purchase http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/esbit-esbitmizer.php

Total price is $12.00 great way to introduce yourself to cooking with Esbit. These sell fast so get in on the deal as soon as you can. :D
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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:27 pm

In about 1 week I should have more ezbitmizer kits available. I'm waiting on a supply of Esbit fuel to arrive.
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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by Ridgerunner » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:32 pm

zelph wrote:In about 1 week I should have more ezbitmizer kits available. I'm waiting on a supply of Esbit fuel to arrive.
Each esbit order should come with a clothespin :lol:
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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:28 am

Ridgerunner wrote:
zelph wrote:In about 1 week I should have more ezbitmizer kits available. I'm waiting on a supply of Esbit fuel to arrive.
Each esbit order should come with a clothespin :lol:
:lol: When you use that stuff as fuel you need to keep in mind from what direction the wind is blowing from ;)

Don't ever blow it out to save a small amount that might be left after heating your water. The dense smoke will kill ya :mrgreen: if the smoke doesn't, the remaining crystals will eventually work their way into your next meal and cause your demise :P

Fuel tabs are not expected in till next Tuesday :roll:
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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:53 pm

fuel tabs arrived on Monday and was able to do a few video tests last night. Video is long, no interruptions, watch it till the end if you have patience and like to watch water boil. At the end you'll see how it goes into the simmer mode.

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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:31 pm

Mini Esbitmizer

Weighs 11gr

Height 7/16

Length 2-1/4

Width 1-1/4

The sliding cover has 3 dimples. The one on the left keeps the lid closed for storage. The one to the right of it keeps the lid at the optimum simmer position when pushed to the right. The third dimple positions the lid to a position where the full size cubes are to be placed for lighting.

I'll do a video tomorrow.


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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:00 am

Loading videos is a challenge, I got it done :mrgreen:

Photobucket video, click on the photo to view:

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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by Ridgerunner » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:45 am

Works well! I imagine the lid would be pretty hot when sliding it from full boil to simmer. Do you think one piece, in simmer mode, would last long enough to bake ?
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Re: Esbitmizer

Post by zelph » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:58 am

Ridgerunner wrote:Works well! I imagine the lid would be pretty hot when sliding it from full boil to simmer. Do you think one piece, in simmer mode, would last long enough to bake ?
I think one piece will be sufficient to bake something. Might do a test later this evening with one 4oz tablet.

The container does get really hot so the ground protector disc should be used on picnic tables and shelter floors and dirt. A twig or pencil will work to slid it closed. There is a little lip on the ground protector disc that will keep the burner from sliding too far. The lids are nice and loose for sliding easily.
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