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TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:09 pm
by zelph
The fuel used in this new stove is approved by Boy Scouts of America, No restrictions for shipping on land or in the air. Fuel won't ignite if spilled out of burning stove.

Going to far away places where fuel is hard to find, worry no more, you can take this stove and fuel with you on your next flight :o

Did 3 boil tests 2 cups of water in approx. 11 min. using a Toaks Light 550ml pot. Not too shabby 8-) Starting water temp was 70 degrees. Calm air conditions in my garage.

There are no worries about shipping restrictions, storage limitations or insurance. Fuel product is manufactured in the USA.

Fuel is approved by Boy Scouts of America organization.

Flame pattern remains constant throughout burning, no flare up once water reaches boiling point.

The btu's are around 8,730.4 Btu/lb. Lower than denatured alcohol but the other benefits outweigh the lower heat output.

The fuel is in the same non-flammable category as vegetable oil and is non-hazardous by D.O.T. regulations. :D

More testing tomorrow under high humidity conditions during rain showers and low barometric pressure.

No sooty deposit left on bottom of pot.....Whoooo Buddy 8-)

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:50 am
by timcarouge
Looks like a good design. What struck me is the restrictions imposed on fuel by the Boy Scouts. Geez, soon only dulled axes will be allowed, and no knots that could constrict.

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:29 am
by zelph
Hi Tim, must be that too many accidents happen when scouts are not supervised by well trained leaders. Hard to say what is the main cause.

Here is a quote from the BSA site, I highlighted the review part in bold:

Chemical Fuels and Equipment


This policy directs Boy Scouts of America members how to safely store, handle, and use chemical fuels and equipment. Safety and environmental awareness concerns have persuaded many campers to move away from traditional outdoor campfires in favor of chemical-fueled equipment used for cooking, heating, and lighting. Be aware that chemical fuels and equipment create very different hazards than traditional wood, charcoal, and other solid fuels; this policy defines how to address those hazards.

Before any chemical fuels or chemical-fueled equipment is used, an adult knowledgeable about chemical fuels and equipment, including regulatory requirements, should resolve any hazards not specifically addressed within this policy.


Chemical fuels—Liquid, gaseous, or gelled fuels.

Approved chemical-fueled equipment—Commercially manufactured equipment, including stoves, grills, burners, heaters, and lanterns that are designed to be used with chemical fuels.

Prohibited chemical-fueled equipment—Equipment that is handcrafted, homemade, modified, or installed beyond the manufacturer’s stated design limitations or use. Examples include alcohol-burning “can” stoves, smudge pots, improperly installed heaters, and propane burners with their regulators removed.

Recommended chemical fuels—White gas (Coleman fuel); kerosene; liquefied petroleum gas fuels, including propane, butane, and isobutane; vegetable oil fuels; biodiesel fuel; and commercially prepared gelled-alcohol fuel in original containers.

Chemical fuels not recommended—Unleaded gasoline; liquid alcohol fuels, including isopropyl alcohol, denatured ethyl alcohol, and ethanol; and other flammable chemicals that are not in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions for chemical-fueled equipment.

Storing, Handling, and Using Chemical Fuels and Equipment

An adult knowledgeable about chemical fuels and equipment should always supervise youths involved in the storage, handling, and use of chemical fuels and equipment.

Operate and maintain chemical-fueled equipment according to the manufacturer’s instructions and in facilities or areas only where and when permitted.

Using liquid fuels for starting any type of fire—including lighting damp wood, charcoal, and ceremonial campfires or displays—is prohibited.

No flames in tents. This includes burning any solid, liquid, gel, or gas fuel—including tents or teepees that feature or support stoves or fires; and any chemical-fueled equipment or catalytic heaters.

Store chemical fuels in their original containers or in containers designed for immediate use. Securely store any spare fuel away from sources of ignition, buildings, and tents.

During transport and storage, properly secure chemical fuel containers in an upright, vertical position.

Why is this important?

In a review of internal and external burn incidents brought to our attention over several years, some trends were observed. These trends are a direct result of activities that are not a part of the BSA program and are inconsistent with the Policy on the Storage, Handling, and Use of Chemical Fuels and Equipment. Please don't put participants at risk by doing similar activities.

Serious and even fatal burns have been the result of the following: using diesel, kerosene, white gas, gasoline, alcohol, or charcoal lighter fluid as accelerants to start fires; use of black powder, pyrodex, or mixed chemicals as fire starters or displays; adding chemicals or alcohol-based products to fires for display purposes; using chemicals such as acetone in ceremonies; and creating or using homemade devices.

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:02 pm
by zelph
These videos show spilled fuel does not ignite and a snuffer is needed to extinguish flames.

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:23 pm
by left52side
Hi Dan .
This looks very similar to the fancee feest burner.
Unless im missing something which I sure is the case.

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:13 pm
by zelph
left52side wrote:Hi Dan .
This looks very similar to the fancee feest burner.
Unless im missing something which I sure is the case.
Yes, it's a modified fancee feest :D It's a very durable design. Aluminum body with integrated stainless steel pot support. I've been making and selling them for many years. I consider myself a "manufacturer" ;)

The design lends itself capable of using such a fuel that requires a "wick" in order for it to ignite.

Yesterdays tests showed an increase in boiling time for 2 cups due to low atmospheric pressure and high humidity during the rainy weather. 12 min. to boil 2 cups in a Titanium Toaks 550 pot.

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:27 pm
by left52side
Thats awesome.
Looks sharp from the videos I watched.
Ill order one when I get back from my thru hike.

Re: TrailSafe Backpacking Stove

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:53 am
by zelph
I might make a few for bplite members. I'm always tinkering as you know :D

How long to you expect to be on the trails?