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Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:28 pm
by zelph
oops56 wrote:To me its a good idea but to many things to brake off like the tube on stove if it got bump or the hose or hole gets loose then the un used fuel must be dump out into a container.Also un hook hose some will leak out. So not me no try you all have fun on yours. :| :|
That is a major concern when we develope these types of stoves. You can watch the video that JSB gives of his new design and see the leak when removing the fuel from stove. His design needs to be tweeked a little. You can see the flash-back that occurs at the fuel line enry port of the stove. Watch at around the 2:50 point of the video. Also watch the fuel leak at the bottle cap when he's squeezing the bottle to make the flame increase.

http://obakanahibi.blog31.fc2.com/blog-entry-323.html

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:35 am
by zelph
oops56 wrote:To me its a good idea but to many things to brake off like the tube on stove if it got bump or the hose or hole gets loose then the un used fuel must be dump out into a container.Also un hook hose some will leak out. So not me no try you all have fun on yours. :| :|
I think the hose should remain attached to the stove to prevent wear and tear on the hose end.

I'm still working on mine, coming close to finishing it. Anyone else working on one for the SOM club?

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:07 pm
by seudo_411
I am still working on one. might have mentioned it in passing. I have a odd question for you all. how well does alcohol conduct electricity.

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:24 pm
by Mister Krabs
seudo_411 wrote:I am still working on one. might have mentioned it in passing. I have a odd question for you all. how well does alcohol conduct electricity.
not well, but maybe just enough to kill ya, much like water.

http://www.smartmeasurement.com/en/wiza ... tivity.asp

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:35 pm
by seudo_411
Mister Krabs wrote:
seudo_411 wrote:I am still working on one. might have mentioned it in passing. I have a odd question for you all. how well does alcohol conduct electricity.
not well, but maybe just enough to kill ya, much like water.

http://www.smartmeasurement.com/en/wiza ... tivity.asp
I have already had one near death experience (not with electricity or alcohol) in the last few days, so i wont be going near mains power forever. But its less conductive that distilled water so its good enough for my purposes. ;)

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:52 pm
by zelph
[quote="seudo_411
http://www.smartmeasurement.com/en/wiza ... tivity.asp[/quote]

I have already had one near death experience (not with electricity or alcohol) in the last few days, so i wont be going near mains power forever. But its less conductive that distilled water so its good enough for my purposes. ;)[/quote]

Use DC current and you won't need to worry. You'll need DC if you want to be away from "the grid"

Generate hydrogen and use that as a fuel :mrgreen:

Stay focused, stop watching the girls while biking :mrgreen:

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:39 am
by seudo_411
Com'on now Zelph, I had my eyes TOO closely on the road.

Anyway the idea is to use nichrome wire and a bit of ceramic clay too preheat stoves and too ultimately make a primer pan less pressurized stove.

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:49 pm
by zelph
seudo_411 wrote:Com'on now Zelph, I had my eyes TOO closely on the road.

Anyway the idea is to use nichrome wire and a bit of ceramic clay too preheat stoves and too ultimately make a primer pan less pressurized stove.
Great idea, I can visualize the stove. Will the coil be internal, if not, make it so :) No ceramic needed. Make it like the old dip stick type engine heater used in autos.(sorry, way before your birth) Like the auto cigarette lighter plug in, cup of coffee heater. :D

I've been watching some guy build a remote fueled stove that looks like a candle wick stuck in a tube. It has 3 legs that are made to sink into the ground for stability and 3 tiny legs to support a pot. It looks like it's made to do 2 cups of water at a time. Totally unstable for a pot that would be used for a long simmer of food or cooking for multiple people. The pot stand can't be more that 1.75 inches in dimeter. Not user friendly. :o

Re: Remote Fueling for Alcohol Stoves

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:38 pm
by seudo_411
Funny you should mention that Zelph I saw the same one, with the weak yellow flames. and the first thing i thought was, is that a paper weight.

But anyway. been looking at RC glow plugs as well, seem possible, not for continuous use, but to start it up. Only six more days then i can buy all my goodies. :D