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Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:18 pm
by DarenN
zelph wrote: Those little needles you paddle must really zip through the water at a pretty quick pace.
never so fast as the day i hooked that big Chinook (King) salmon!! :lol:

i always use barbless hooks. no matter if i'm in the salt on heavey tackle, or on a creek with a #4 fly-rod.

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:53 pm
by zelph
DarenN wrote:
zelph wrote: Those little needles you paddle must really zip through the water at a pretty quick pace.
never so fast as the day i hooked that big Chinook (King) salmon!! :lol:

i always use barbless hooks. no matter if i'm in the salt on heavey tackle, or on a creek with a #4 fly-rod.
WhoooWhooo!!!!! I wish I culda seen that :lol:

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:35 pm
by Ridgerunner
I know You're busy getting ready for Your trip, but I would be interested in knowing what ultralight fishing gear You like.

Maybe when You get back? Or maybe someone else could chime in. I need a small rod for my emergency bag.
Allen, I like to go on the cheap as much as possible. We have a Bass pro Shop here in Cincinnati and i was there last week looking at all the flyfishing gear. I've never done it but would love to learn. the problem is I have so many hobbies and so much gear that the cost of flyfishing gear was enough to realize I can make do with my spincasting gear. :lol: I am debating which system to take to the Smokys. I have a Diawa MiniCast that is really sweet and I just picked up this Protocol collapsible pole at a flea market. It was missing the reel, but i have several ultralights such as the Johnson in this pic or a Zebco UL3. I'm not sure what tackle to take for trout--will have to research. We have Rainbow trout in lakes around here that are stocked yearly but you catch them on powerbait suspended just off the bottom. I'm sure diffrent tactics will be needed for stream fishing the Smokys. :lol: Anyone have any suggestions as far as tackle or line for trout fishing in the Smokys :?:
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Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:57 pm
by DarenN
spinning tackle for rainbows!?!? PPPPPHHHHHHTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

but if you absolutely have to i'd suggest the smallest spinners (like Mepps) with shiney blades. you can fish wet flies with spin tackle. tie on the fly, and put a small split-shot about 18-24" up the line. you probably won't be able to cast very far, but it can work. use a light-weight line like, 4-6lb test mono.

Daren.....

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:30 pm
by Ridgerunner
Thanks for your Input DarenN. I know , you true flyfisherman afficianados could do it no other way, especially stream fishing. :lol: Do you think 2 lb. test is too light? The trout average only 6 inches. We catch bigger ones at the lakes around here but they are farm raised and NO ONE uses flyfishing gear. :lol: My one buddy will be packing his fly gear. I bet the Bass Pro Shop Pole/real case is 3 feet long and weighs a couple pounds. I've been eyeballing some small breakdown flyrods on ebay but they ain't cheap :lol: Seams like it would be easy to make a custome pole case that would be light and at the same time minimize space.(Maybe out of golf club inserts for your golf bag(another hobby of mine)

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:39 pm
by DarenN
i'd probably still go with 6lb. it'll work better in the reel. tie on about three feet of 2lb 'tippet' material. it's virtually invisable in the water. helps fool the trout. wild trout are a lot whilier than those farm fish. i've fished both and know this to be true.

Daren....

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:23 pm
by Ridgerunner
wild trout are a lot whilier than those farm fish. i've fished both and know this to be true.
I've read that they are skittish and you have to sneak up on them and cast from a distance and wear subdued colors of clothing. Just like hunting any other wild animal. :lol:

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:36 pm
by zelph
Ridgerunner wrote:
wild trout are a lot whilier than those farm fish. i've fished both and know this to be true.
I've read that they are skittish and you have to sneak up on them and cast from a distance and wear subdued colors of clothing. Just like hunting any other wild animal. :lol:
You can use a clear plastic float, also known as a bobber by some folk :mrgreen: The float will carry the wet or dry fly past the holes, boulders, eddies etc. do a google on clear float fishing and see if you come up with something. The system works for small mouth bass in local creeks. :) It's been in in-fisherman magazines and others.

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:43 pm
by Ridgerunner
You can use a clear plastic float, also known as a bobber by some folk The float will carry the wet or dry fly past the holes, boulders, eddies etc. do a google on clear float fishing and see if you come up with something. The system works for small mouth bass in local creeks. It's been in in-fisherman magazines and others.
Thanks Zelph. I am taking this all in before i make my trip back to Bass Pro Shop to finalize my tackle. I know you can only use one hook in the Smokys--no treble hook allowed. :(

Re: Replacement Nalgene Bottle Lid

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:01 pm
by DarenN
Ridgerunner wrote: I know you can only use one hook in the Smokys--no treble hook allowed. :(
with a lot of lures it's possible to change the hook from treble to single. if you can't, just cut off two of the hooks with a side cutter, and pinch the barb flat on the remaining hook.