Stoves vs. group size

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Stoves vs. group size

Post by heckdog » Mon May 05, 2008 1:10 pm

Went on a BP trip in the Grand Canyon with a group of 4. As the Ultralight advocate, I packed the FBC meals. I carried a White Box Stove (WBS), IMUSA bigger mug and 4 oz. fuel. I gave 4oz. fuel and Super Cat Stoves to the other 3. Turned out the IMUSA mug was way too small for the WBS. The first meal we had four guys boiling up water for the cranberry chicken rice meal. Seemed cumbersome and waste"fuel". Ended up boiling water in a one quart ti pot on the WBS for the group (had to do two runs at 6 min each). Four meals X Four Guys = 20oz fuel. Does that seem like a lot? The group sort of concluded that there has to be a tipping point where one Whisperlite beats 4 UL stove. Thoughts or comments???

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Re: Stoves vs. group size

Post by zelph » Mon May 05, 2008 5:03 pm

Does that seem like a lot?
Yes, you should have been able toget by with12-14 ounces easy.

The supercat should have been able to heat 2 cups with 17ml of fuel, using a windscreen.

I doo ramen with 200 degree water, let sit for 10 min. drops to 180 degrees and is still too hot to eat.(brown bag cozy used)I'm on a budget :mrgreen:

There are alchy stoves that have a larger capacity, like the Fancee Feest, Trangia's and ------help me out here guy's ;)
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Re: Stoves vs. group size

Post by zelph » Mon May 05, 2008 11:04 pm

Did the other 3 attempt to use the Supercats?
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Post by sarbar » Tue May 06, 2008 11:22 pm

A tea kettle would have worked better than the mug - they usually have a wide bottom. I flip between a Primus and a GSI one :) Both are very light and hold about 4 cups water.
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Re: Stoves vs. group size

Post by heckdog » Fri May 09, 2008 7:02 pm

I think one tea kettle for the group would have been a good idea (got all weight wiennie the night before - 4oz IMUSA vs. 7oz. tea kettle). Assuming you are using a White Box Stove, how much fuel do you budget for the four cups? Maybe that should have been my original question ----- how many stoves for a group of four? Four stoves, four fuel bottle, four mugs everyone does their own boilings, or one stove/pot for the group?

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Post by zelph » Fri May 09, 2008 11:23 pm

2 kettles and 2 stoves---good trade :)
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Post by sarbar » Sat May 10, 2008 7:42 pm

zelph wrote:2 kettles and 2 stoves---good trade :)
Yep. That is a good way to look at it - keep it two adults per stove and you get faster water boiling times with less fuel used (boiling 8 cups of water that is just above freezing take a lot longer than 4 cups in a smaller pan).
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Re: Stoves vs. group size

Post by Allen » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:43 am

Sorry to pull up an old thread, but I think groups of 4 are the perfect use of a Foster's Beer Can
Open Top sideburning stove. Use any Pot that is 8" or more wide. You can wash dishes or carry
water in the same pot.

Cheers!

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Post by zelph » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:02 pm

Allen wrote:Sorry to pull up an old thread, but I think groups of 4 are the perfect use of a Foster's Beer Can
Open Top sideburning stove. Use any Pot that is 8" or more wide. You can wash dishes or carry
water in the same pot.

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I agree, they make for nice large diameter burners. Good to see you back in this neighborhood Allen. :D
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