Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

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Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by zelph » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:18 pm

Here is a good tip:

When you design a stove be prepared for people to make copies of it and sell it on ebay.

An example of that is what I saw on ebay today. A copy of the White Box Stove:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RUCAS-Repurpose ... 2c658a18c8

He's long winded just like bill ballowe :o That might be a good trait on ebay ;) Here is what his WBS listing looks like:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHITE-BOX-STOVE ... 33695a989a

If you know of any knock-offs list them in this thread. We should be able to list more ;)
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by steamjam » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:52 pm

When you design anything that is even remotely popular. Be prepared to have someone copy it.

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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by zelph » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:13 pm

steamjam wrote:When you design anything that is even remotely popular. Be prepared to have someone copy it.
I think you're righ on that one.

Here is one you recently brought to our attention quoted from your thread:

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I borrowed friends Esbit stove and compared the Alocs to it.

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They are identical in every detail. The have the same number of jets that are of the same bore size. They weigh the same empty, They are of the same diameter, height, etc etc and the burner opening is also the same diameter. I asked my friend if he still had the packaging to the Esbit, and he did. I took a look at it and indeed it says on the back: "Made in China"

The Alocs is made in China... The Esbit is made in China. Could they be from the same manufacturer? Sure seems like it! The difference really? The Alocs is $9.99. The Esbit is $19.95.
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by Ridgerunner » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:57 pm

There is a Russian clone to the Optimus 8r and there is a Japanese knockoff also. It is a Phoebus, I believe.
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by zelph » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:23 pm

The russians get in on it also hmph!!! :roll:

"Cabbagehead" makes this WBS knock-off:
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by steamjam » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:45 pm

Ridgerunner wrote:There is a Russian clone to the Optimus 8r and there is a Japanese knockoff also. It is a Phoebus, I believe.
I *think* (From my memory.. but then again I have CRS.. so it could be just me imagination) I remember running into a Dura-Camp white gas and kerosene stove. It was made in Japan and was much closer to the Colemans then the Primus stoves.

Still.

If I had to pick between a Russian, Chinese, or Japanese knock off of anything.. I'd pick the Japanese knock off. At least the Japanese care about the stuff they make.. :-D I'm usually very suspect of most things built in Russia, or any former iron curtain country... Remember the Yugo? How many of THOSE things still roam the American roads vs. how many have long been melted down and turned into countless pie tins and "mrs Butterfield's cookie tins"?

Two exceptions: AK47's and T34-85 tanks.

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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by steamjam » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:49 pm

For those of us who are too young to remember or have blocked from your memories using long hours of therapy:..... these... uhm.... "cars".... :lol:
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by realityguy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:50 pm

Well..I still like Chinese food.. :roll: ..

:lol:

(I have to..) :mrgreen:
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by realityguy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:19 pm

I always wondered about the "smart" cars..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKGfo1w ... re=related

Don't look too smart to me.. :roll:
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Re: Alcohol Stove Knock-Offs

Post by steamjam » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:15 pm

realityguy wrote:I always wondered about the "smart" cars..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKGfo1w ... re=related

Don't look too smart to me.. :roll:
Thats 70mph! no car on earth would do well at that speed. Still for a tiny little car that Smart car did well. Not to much deformation in the passenger area. The other car didn't do to bad either. Lets compare that to a chinese built Volkswagen forward cab at 40mph:



And now a German built Vanagon:

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