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Tyvek for DIY

Post by DarenN » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:13 am

over at BPL a fella from Australia did some testing on adhesives and Tyvek.
i found it an interesting article; informative and well written.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... d_id=17506

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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by hoz » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:32 am

Interesting, but I have no idea what adhesives he is talking about.

Would have been helpful for those of us outside of "Downunder" to know which is white builders glue, polyurethane glue, contact cement, etc.

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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by DarenN » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:59 am

hoz wrote:Interesting, but I have no idea what adhesives he is talking about.

Would have been helpful for those of us outside of "Downunder" to know which is white builders glue, polyurethane glue, contact cement, etc.
i agree hoz.
a little research should help us figure it out though. the product he seemed to like the best was the Fulaprene. i googled it and the site i found said it is a neoprene based construction adhesive. one that i'm familiar with is called "Bulldog" but their site didn't say what it's based on. another product he used was a blue colored PVC cement. i've got some out in the shop that is purple. the one that he said would be helped in curing by spraying it with water would be a polyurethane glue. i've used poly glues like "Gorilla" and "Titebond" in woodwork and they both require that you wet the wood with water before glueing.

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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by zelph » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:49 am

Thanks Daren for the info. Lots of good reading and research into the subject. I like tyvek except for the noise factor. ;)
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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by DarenN » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:54 am

zelph wrote:Thanks Daren for the info. Lots of good reading and research into the subject. I like tyvek except for the noise factor. ;)
my interest in this is not actually hiking related. small boat builders have been useing Tyvek to make sails on the cheap. a Dacron sail that would cost 500 bucks can be made from Tyvek for next to nothing.

http://www.boat-links.com/Tyvek/

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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by zelph » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:57 am

DarenN wrote:
zelph wrote:Thanks Daren for the info. Lots of good reading and research into the subject. I like tyvek except for the noise factor. ;)
my interest in this is not actually hiking related. small boat builders have been useing Tyvek to make sails on the cheap. a Dacron sail that would cost 500 bucks can be made from Tyvek for next to nothing.

http://www.boat-links.com/Tyvek/

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Do they also make sails out of rip-stop nylon? What is the GoTo fabric of choice for making your own sails?
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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by DarenN » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:12 pm

i've heard of guys using rip-stop. not many though. however, rip-stop is used extensively for kayak sails. these are small V shaped things that have a somewhat flexable mast on either side. a friend of mine has two on his kayak. that thing is fast!!

'yak sails:
http://www.spiritsails.com/

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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by zelph » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:17 pm

DarenN wrote:i've heard of guys using rip-stop. not many though. however, rip-stop is used extensively for kayak sails. these are small V shaped things that have a somewhat flexable mast on either side. a friend of mine has two on his kayak. that thing is fast!!

'yak sails:
http://www.spiritsails.com/

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I've heard the term Spinnaker? used for sails, must be a rip-stop of somekind.
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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by DarenN » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 pm

untill recently i had never heard the term "Spinnaker" used to describe a type of fabric. a Spinnaker is a type of sail used in downwind sailing. they are huge and flown like a kite.

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Re: Tyvek for DIY

Post by hoz » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:42 pm

I've made several Tyvek sails for my decked sailing canoe. 40-50 sq ft, balanced lug sails. I use double sided carpet tape to make the seams though. Then finish them off with duct tape. My sails last 3-4 years, weekly sailing in season.

Here's a video of my rig tacking upwind across a local lake in force 3 winds.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ling&hl=en

Spinnaker fabric is lighter than rip stop. It may be sil nylon without the "sil".

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