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Give results of stoves tested. At least three test burns made in succession using 1/2 ounce of denatured alcohol and 2 cups of water. Give any and all additional conditions that exist during testing.

Stoves bought retail and Do-It-Yourself stoves. Everyone is welcome to post their results and post comments.
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FeatherFire

Postby zelph » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:38 pm

Here are some instructions that came via email. Stove has not arrived yet.

Do some reading while we wait :D

Filling and Igniting Your Stove
**Important** Set the stove in place BEFORE filling with fuel. If you accidentally spill
some fuel over the side of the fuel bowl. Do NOT light the stove. If you do it can cause
flames to exit the air intake holes which in turn may damage the choke ring mechanism.
1.) Locate an area that is level and can be cleared of combustibles for about a 3 foot (1 meter)
radius around your stove.
2.) Unfold, smooth and place your ground reflector** in the center of the cleared space.
3.) Push the 3 support legs down until the “Bow-Tie” bend clears the bottom of the stove. Swing
the three stove support legs out and then push them upwards until they lock into place. Then
place your stove in the center of the reflector.
4.) Expand your windscreen** enough to allow for a ¼ inch space (5 mm) all around the cook pot
you intend to use. Fit the flame control knob through one of the windscreen air holes and then
center the windscreen around your stove.
5.) Make certain that the choke ring is all the way open by turning the flame control knob in a
counter-clockwise direction.

6.) Put an adequate amount of alcohol (not to exceed 2 fluid ounces) into the fuel bowl that is
located directly beneath the exhaust port on the top of your stove. (After filling your stove be
certain to place your fuel bottle well away from the stove area!)
7.) The easiest and safest way to ignite your stove is to make a “twig match”.
Find a small twig that is about the diameter of a wooden match-stick and about as long as your
hand. Dip only the very tip of the twig (about 1/8 of an inch) into the alcohol in your stove. No need
to soak it, just dip it in and pull it out. Light the end of the twig and quickly use it to light your stove.
Then extinguish the twig the same as you would a match. (And just as you would with any match
be sure it is completely extinguished and cold before disposal.)
8.) Place your cook pot on the supports.
**Important** If your cook pot has an attached handle, be sure to line the handle up
with one of the support stand wires.
( **NOTE: Ground reflector and windscreen are separate accessories and are not included
with your stove.
All alcohol stoves need a windscreen in order operate properly. A heat reflector will also
increase efficiency. We recommend our Adjustable Windscreen and Heat Reflector Disc.
You may order them here:

The main thing to know about adjusting your stove is that you need to let it reach full operating
temperature BEFORE making any adjustments. This generally takes somewhere between 30 and
90 seconds depending on conditions. (Temperature, wind etc.)
A soon as your stove has reached full operating temperature you can leave it on full for a quick
boil, turn it down to a low simmer or anywhere in between. (The adjustment range is about 5 full
turns of the flame control knob.)
To reduce heat output simply turn the flame adjustment knob clockwise until the desired heat
output is achieved. (Don’t worry, the knob NEVER gets hot.) If you later decide you need more
heat then just turn the knob counter-clockwise.
Please note that we emphasize Heat Control. That’s because you‘re adjusting air flow NOT air
pressure.
The first one or two turns downward will definitely lower the heat output even though the flame
size might not visibly seem to get much smaller. The most noticeable change in both heat out-put
and flame size will be from about 3 turns down to fully closed.
Also be aware that as you’re turning the stove down, the heat output will decrease almost
immediately even though it typically takes about 30 seconds for the flame size to fully decrease to
a given setting.
When turning the stove up, heat AND flame size respond immediately.
"Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained" stove store = http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/

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Re: Featherlite

Postby oops56 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:52 pm

Caution you must have 2 years of college or be over 21 :lol: :lol:
Man play with fire man get burnt

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Re: Featherlite

Postby Ridgerunner » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:55 pm

Were those the KISS instructions :?: :lol: The stove looks like a piece of high tech calibrated machinery. Let us know if it is all it claims to be. The reflector plate and windscreen are extra accessories. What are the cost of those? I can see one having 35-40 dollars tied up in a fancy soda can stove. Looks very interesting though. i can't wait to see your review. ;)
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Re: Featherlite

Postby zelph » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:53 pm

The stove arrived today. It's made very well and larger than I expected.

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Re: Featherlite

Postby irrationalsolutions » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:18 pm

awesome. let the fun begin. i want to know how the ajustment works out.
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Re: FeatherFire

Postby zelph » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:40 am

irrationalsolutions wrote:awesome. let the fun begin. i want to know how the ajustment works out.


A photo of the adjustment is included with the remainder of the instructions.

Extinguishing Your Stove
One of the great features of your FeatherFire stove is that you don’t need to try to calculate how
much fuel you will need and end up using more than is strictly necessary. Or worse yet, use too
little and be forced to let your stove (AND half cooked meal) cool down so you can add more!
In fact our extensive pre-production tests found that it is actually more fuel efficient to start with
more fuel than is needed, use only as much as you need and then extinguish the
flame. As soon as you certain that the flame is extinguished, you can then
‘vacuum‘ out the unused fuel using our exclusive Fuel Bottle Kit. (For best fuel
economy, remove any unused fuel a soon as possible as it will continue
evaporate.)
You may order a fuel bottle kit here: http://www.packafeather.com
To extinguish the flame, first close the air intake ports (remember to leave your cook pot in place
while doing this) by turning the flame adjustment knob clockwise until it stops (about 5 turns from
full open). Then wait about 20-30 seconds allowing the flame to shrink. Then use the included
snuffer cap to cover the exhaust port and firmly hold it down to extinguish the flame.
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**Important** ALWAYS close the air intake ports completely and allow the flame to
stabilize and shrink BEFORE attempting to extinguish the flame. Failure to do so may
cause flames to exit through the air intake ports which in turn may damage the choke ring
mechanism.
If while holding the snuffer cap firmly in place you see or feel flames exiting the air intake
holes, remove the snuffer cap and allow the stove to cool for another 15 seconds. Then try
again.
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Care and Maintenance of Your Stove
During the extensive research and development phase of the FeatherFire stove, every effort was
made to achieve an ideal balance between weight and durability. It is certainly not fragile but a
stove that weighs a less than 2 ounces cannot be made indestructible! Therefore you should take
reasonable precautions to avoid damaging your stove.
Packing Your Stove
The best place to pack your stove is inside of your cook pot. If that is not an option for you then
there are two (2) parts of your stove that you should take care with when packing your
stove:
1.) The choke ring. Remember that the metal is very thin and if you press too hard you can dent
or deform the choke sleeve and outer wall of your stove. So be sure to pack your stove so that it
can’t get creased or dented, either from riding against other items in your pack or by inadvertently
bumping your pack into a tree limb or such.
2.) The cable between the worm screw and flame adjusting knob. Although it is made from
spring-temper stainless steel, you should pack your stove so that the cable doesn’t become bent
or kinked, especially where it connects to the worm screw. (If it does get bent it’s fairly simple to
straighten it out but doing so too many times could cause one or more of the tiny wires that make
up the cable to fatigue and eventually break.)
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Maintaining Your Stove
Your FeatherFire stove requires very little maintenance. Other than keeping it clean, about the
only maintenance needed is to occasionally lubricate the threads of the worm screw assembly at
the 2 points shown below with a light machine oil (3-in-1 oil or similar).
The choke ring never requires lubrication.
**Important** Do NOT use cooking oil to lubricate your stove. It will leave a sticky
residue that is nearly impossible to remove.


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DISCLAIMER
Fire is dangerous and ANY backpacking stove can create a potentially hazardous situation for the
user. Buyer assumes all responsibility for any and all loss, damage and injury caused through the
use of the stove. Buyer assumes any and all risk of loss, damage and injury and warrants that he
or she will defend, indemnify and hold Seller harmless for any such loss, damage and injury.
If you are not willing to assume ALL responsibility for any and all loss,
damage and/or injury that may arise through the use of the stove and any
accessories please return it for a refund before using it.
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The stove is very well built. I'ts a work of Art. The designer is totally familiar with machining methods and seems to have an extensive knowledge of the fastner industry. His choice of materials are superb.

The opening in the top of the stove is 1- 1/8 inch in diameter. My first impression was to think of the Ion stove made by Sgt Rock. He also made another stove prior to the ion that had a burner inside an outer shell. I can't remember the name of it right now(timeout for a senior moment) The featherfire is based on that design. The outer shell having holes init to allow air to enter and feed the inner fuel cup. It will be interesting to see the burner in action.

I need to do an internal inspection of the stove before firing it up. The body of the burner is very firm. It's not fragile feeling like two pop cans put together.

The money paid for this stove is for the quality craftsmanship, time and effort put into it.

The next step will be to see how it ignites and burns. In the instructions it gives the warmup time, check it out. Don't be surprised at the time. Also read what is recommended for use to light the stove, a twig dipped in the alcohol and lit and then put into the burner.

There are two parts to a stove that I will refer to; the burner and the potstand.

The potstand has three leg supports. In the instructions it is said to have the handle of your pot in line with one of the supports. Four legged pot stands have always been better than three. If the instructions are not followed your going to have the pot tip the stove over.
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Re: FeatherFire

Postby dlarson » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:47 pm

Zelph wrote:It's a work of Art.


No kidding. I love the way it looks... all high-tech space age detailed goodness.
It reminds me of all those stoves that Japanese guy has on YouTube. I think it's because the legs/pot stand are similar.
I saw a picture or video somewhere that had a nice glass door display case with 16 or so squares and a stove in each. I thought it was the same guy but I can't find it.
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Re: FeatherFire

Postby hoz » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:35 pm

This stove looks amazing. But at 30 bucks I'm afraid I'd have to take a pass. Looking forward to your burn tests.

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Re: FeatherFire

Postby irrationalsolutions » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:11 pm

how is the inside made?
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Re: FeatherFire

Postby hoz » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:36 pm

Stupid question, so to lower the heat you turn the knob tightening the band which cuts off air to the stove? (Assuming there are intake holes under the band).


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