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Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:03 pm
by zelph
just tinkering wrote:BTW - I have found that if you file the top crimp of the soda cans that you can get a smoother, and slightly larger openning.

Good luck,

Jon


Thanks for the tip Jon. If I had filed the edge on my can top it would have been easier to get the Beaner in.

<I then inserted the Beaner into the can. It was a little bit tight but made it fit without deforming the can, fits like a glove. So were off to a real good start.
Next I'll make the holes in the can and then a test burn.>

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Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:47 pm
by zelph
Here is the first test results:

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Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:57 pm
by Ridgerunner
So would it be safe to assume that you are not a happy camper when it comes to the beaner stove? :roll:

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:19 pm
by zelph
Ridgerunner wrote:So would it be safe to assume that you are not a happy camper when it comes to the beaner stove? :roll:


I have no money but lots of patience :D I will try several more times.

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:16 pm
by realityguy
I'm sorry but the stove is nonreturnable..You made it wrong and abused the product!You can't use diet popcans! :o They starve the stove for fuel and air! :roll:

4 tries..well ..you either froze to death,starved/or the bear ate you for giving him your uncooked dinner by that time!


:lol:

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:56 pm
by DarenN
i took the top off my out can the same way that Jon suggests and the openning was way too big. like 1/8" gap all around. i shrunk the top of the can so it fit tighter and still didn't get a satisfactory burn, although i'd have to say i got better results than Zelph did. at least i didn't have to relight it. ;)

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:57 pm
by zelph
DarenN wrote:i took the top off my out can the same way that Jon suggests and the openning was way too big. like 1/8" gap all around. i shrunk the top of the can so it fit tighter and still didn't get a satisfactory burn, although i'd have to say i got better results than Zelph did. at least i didn't have to relight it. ;)


What did you use for fuel 2nd try?

I went out and picked some bigger twigs for tomorrows test. Only found 1 pine cone. Did you use pine cone pieces?

By relighting, I gave the stove the benefit of a doubt.


A post made at Hammock Forums today

pedro 02-19-2010 19:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by turnerminator (Post 212732)
Oops-It seems that refilling these beaners/en stoves mid burn is tall order.

Good test and info. :)
IME, the EN will allow some fuel to be added mid-burn, but the it's very hard to do this with the beaner. I was able to boil water with the beaner, but only using pellets. IIRC it took something like 10 min. for 2 cups.

I think that both problems relate to the small diameter of the beaner. Smaller diameter= lower horsepower. These stoves are manufactured from stock stainless steel welded tubing, or I am very much mistaken. The idea of using a tubing dia. that allows the end user to make an outer jacket from a soda can is very clever, but as I stated before, it doesn't look like this design has any practical application as a backpacking stove. It does do a wonderful job of showing how efficient gasification can be. My choice would still be between an EN stove or a Penny/Garlington variant. The point made of char build-up preventing refueling after a time is a very good one. That problem could reduce the attraction of the TLOD, as the ability to reload mid-burn was one of the selling points for me. I don't personally need that long of a burn, but if I were cooking for others it would be nice. I have a couple of ideas that I will play with.

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:03 pm
by DarenN
first burn was alcohol. big gap at the top of the outer can.

second burn was alcohol. no gap.

third burn was wood, and one pine cone.

i haven't done any further testing yet. broken up pine cones will be next. i can pick up hundreds of the damn things in my yard.

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:11 pm
by zelph
i haven't done any further testing yet. broken up pine cones will be next. i can pick up hundreds of the damn things in my yard.


Do you heat your garage with the cones?

On the back burner is a stove to heat my garage with course sawdust. When I get time ;)

Re: THE BEANER - WorldStoveUSA

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:16 pm
by DarenN
zelph wrote:Do you heat your garage with the cones?


no, i don't get that many. but i do pick them up and save them for my small woodstoves and backyard fires.