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Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:38 am
by zelph
Tony's pal Roger posted some info somewhere about canister stoves being the most weight efficient system on long hikes. Tony's own testing also showed this. i used 165 grams of fuel over six days/five nights = 27.5 grams per day. on three occasions the stove ran for about a half hour. i'd say that's pretty damned efficient!
All that may be true but most of us can't make our own canister stove. :D Just think, we go into a pristine area, the only thing we hear is the sounds of nature and our footsteps. Then comes time to have something to eat at the end of a long days trek. all of a sudden!!! Rhoooarrrrrrrrrr, my pocket rocket ignites and it's the only thing I can here until the water has boiled. :mrgreen: Later we want a hot drink before retiring for the evening again the roar of the rocket talks to us while we wait. I'ts not for me. Give me the snap crackle pop of the campfire and then the quite sound of the alcohol stove. :D

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:44 am
by realityguy
I think Daren's using it to bring back a little of that city noise..just a little too quiet for him with the repetitive lapping of the waves on the shore and the noisy squirtin' of clams. :mrgreen:

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:52 am
by realityguy
On the other hand..no muss,no fuss..push the button,turn the valve and cook.On a short trip by yourself I can understand it.You get 23-1/2 hours of that solitude and lack of noise.What's a half hour of cooking per day over a roaring canister stove when you could spend some of that saved cooking/prep time doing other monotonous things like exploring other coves,beaches,and islands..or nibbled on by deer(or college girls).The time out there is precious..do what it takes to maximize it!You're forgiven,Daren! :mrgreen:
Now get back to work! :lol:

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:32 pm
by Ridgerunner
doing other monotonous things like exploring other coves,beaches,and islands..or nibbled on by deer(or college girls).
My thoughts exactly RG. Three cooking systems should impress a biologist or two ! :lol: :lol:

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:31 pm
by realityguy
I kept a Micron and a Peak One canister lantern and may do the same thing sometime.Daren took the static so I shouldn't have to now. :mrgreen:

He never did tell us if the new ones liked his blueberry muffins... :roll: .. :lol:

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:49 pm
by DarenN
realityguy wrote:I kept a Micron and a Peak One canister lantern and may do the same thing sometime.Daren took the static so I shouldn't have to now. :mrgreen:

He never did tell us if the new ones liked his blueberry muffins... :roll: .. :lol:
i still may buy one of those canister lanterns just out of curiousity.

as soon as i found out that Elspeth was gone, i ate the bagels myself. ;)

re: camera trouble. i just ordered an underwater housing from Canon for my A720-IS. i won't be having any more wet camera issues.

Daren...

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:28 pm
by realityguy
i still may buy one of those canister lanterns just out of curiousity.
At $1.29 on sale day..it was pretty hard to pass up,appears unused with a new mantle in it.I do have another one but it's minus the top plate.I just took another look at the pieces one..Century Primus and fits a standard propane bottle...but the glass maybe the same size..oh well..parts..
The Peak 1 weighs in at about 8 ounces..but it's a convenience if you are already packing canisters. ;)

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:48 pm
by Ridgerunner
realityguy wrote:
i still may buy one of those canister lanterns just out of curiousity.
At $1.29 on sale day..it was pretty hard to pass up,appears unused with a new mantle in it.I do have another one but it's minus the top plate.I just took another look at the pieces one..Century Primus and fits a standard propane bottle...but the glass maybe the same size..oh well..parts..
The Peak 1 weighs in at about 8 ounces..but it's a convenience if you are already packing canisters. ;)
Keep in mind the larnerns consume fuel more rapidly than the stoves. I will have to post a pic of one of mine that found on ebay years ago on the cheap. I believe it is called "ying-yang" :lol: :lol: If your yaking, you have more room for extra tanks.

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:16 pm
by DarenN
Ridgerunner wrote: yaking, you have more room for extra tanks.
is that the reason that i keep downsizing my kit? ;) :lol:

last week i kept track of some numbers.
by the end of the trip, i could average 4 knots for over three hours (GPS). that's 4.6 MPH. faster than walking, the interesting thing is that the boat alone weighs fifty pounds. add my kit and paddling gear and you're closing in on a hundred pounds, plus my weight and you're closing in on 300lbs! where a through hiker carrying a thirty pound pack will make 15-20miles in a day, i'll make the same distance in less than five hours. i like walking too so i ain't saying nothing with this. it's just interesting to look at the numbers from different types of trips. i always carry a day pack and will often load up lunch and hike whatever island i happen to be on. instead of paddling around it, i'll walk around it's edge. i enjoy these day hikes just as much as paddling.

Daren.......

Re: June Solo Kayak Trip.

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:53 pm
by zelph
Those are interesting numbers. You should always carry some extra bagles in your day pack, you might meet/make a friend. :D

All your weight must be in your upper body(muscle mass)
Keep on trekkin!!!! :mrgreen: