Next year I'm water hiking

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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby realityguy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:58 pm

I seem to recall a thingie with a bar,c clamp,and a couple 5-6" plastic lawnmower wheels..that's basically all you need..got a welder? ;)
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby zelph » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:01 pm

realityguy wrote:I seem to recall a thingie with a bar,c clamp,and a couple 5-6" plastic lawnmower wheels..that's basically all you need..got a welder? ;)


After I made my last post I checked ebay for "transom clamp and was able to bid and win a clamp that will work for me. I have wheels.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190589613797?ss ... 1497.l2649
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby realityguy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:26 pm

I'd bend a U shape piece of 1/2 or 3/4" aluminum conduit the width of the transit and bolt a couple wheels to the bottom legs with maybe quick release pins(bolt and wingnut?)..mount the clamp at the center of the U..make something lightweight with a couple 12-16" bicycle tires(if you plan on using it for actual portage)..or just cheap plastic lawnmower ones for boat ramps..something easy to disassemble and put in the boat once it's by water...I think the one I have somewhere is steel and heavier than it should be.Somewhere I had one of the pole thingies that mounts to a trailer ball.I have another that is a pair of wheels with a trailer ball on top and long T handle for moving boat loaded trailers on asphalt or around the yard.I do know where that is but it's extremely heavy(40-50lbs)..more for bigger boats.
Or..you could go lazy and make a powered 3hp Briggs and Stratton one with 2 speed forward and reverse gearing like my neighbor did,hooked to the trailer mount with a ball on top of it,short handle with controls..but it weighed more than your canoe. :o .He used it at the local marina one summer..stored his boat in a shed there and ran it to the launch 30-40 yards away using POWER! :twisted:
Of course he also built his own power wood planer and bandsaw mill. :o ...Engineer at Fluke,Hobbyist in "invention" at home with access to Fluke lathes...a good neighbor to have! ;) We're both McGyvers and get along great! If he doesn't have something at the time needed..I do. :lol:
One more thing..make sure you make the wheel assembly in such a way that it will work with the canoe either side up..so you can load it up with everything at the car for launching right side up at the boat launch..and upside down for draining water as you pack it to the car or for portage..if needed. ;) 4 bolts sticking out with wingnuts on the transom can make it reversible with the U drilled in the right spots and connected quick if you use stainless ones.
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby zelph » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:55 pm

Great ideas!!!

I'm thinking to transport canoe flat on top of trailer. Keep the wheels attached to transom when loading by myself. I can make a ramp12" x 8' with some expanded metal, which I have in 4x8 sheets. Frame it with 2x2"s, skin it with expanded metal mesh. 8 foot should work good. Once the canoe is up on top I'll push it forward and let the wheels drop off the front of the trailer gently.
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby realityguy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:11 am

Cabelas and others have some nice shots of canoe trailers for launching..give you some good ideas.i must of had a brain fart with the bolts..you just said you bought a clamp.. :roll: larger bicycle wheels travel well over rough surfaces,grass, and probably mud..and with larger loads inside.

http://www.cabelas.com/canoe-kayak-stor ... tion.shtml
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby zelph » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:01 am

Big wheels, big poundage. :D Big wheels save on back muscles. I think I have some 7" somewhere under somthing in the garage :o :mrgreen: I have to wait and see what the transom clamp looks like.
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby realityguy » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:38 am

Bicycle wheels are really lightweight but bulky.I used one of the baby joggers for making a garden cart for up and down my back yard trails which are pretty steep.I can easily pull two garbage cans full with about 80-100 lbs of maple leaves up them(getting almost that time again.. :roll: ).The baby joggers have a lot of aluminum tubing and quick releases,and wouldn't take much for revamping to a canoe dolly..and usually an extra third spare wheel and tire,that have seen little wear and tear.Keep in mind that they do fold up to fit in a trunk , back of an SUV,or back seat as they are.

http://www.babyjogger.com/perf_jogger_lp.aspx

Burley bike trailers are another option..

They are expensive new but I've found them as cheap as $10-15 around here in the stores.I think there is one at deseret right now for $35(expensive!) or so with 12-16" wheels and tires.

My cart is actually a combination of a baby jogger and an old burley that were lying around.,just bolting parts together between the two because the burley had more space(held two kids) whereas the baby jogger held one. in the triangular frame.

here's what you need ...or an idea--->http://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-flatbed-bike-cargo-trailer-p-1304.html?gdftrk=gdfV22203_a_7c1234_a_7c8345_a_7c1304&gclid=CIiks53WhqwCFQVihwodGnioCw

This is what I used for my main frame style-->http://www.bikekidshop.com/burley-cub-bike-child-trailer-p-1298.html?gdftrk=gdfV22203_a_7c1223_a_7c8344_a_7c1298&gclid=CNrqqMvWhqwCFQYZQgodTy-hBg

I hadn't planned on putting the cans in,just leaves..but the cans are a lot easier.I have a couple big leaf maples that dump about 40 trashcans worth of leaves...throw them out in yard waste..
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby zelph » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:50 am

Those are all really nice so I'll have to keep my eyes open and brain engaged. Ideas to look for:

http://www.google.com/search?q=bike+car ... 80&bih=852
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby realityguy » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:01 pm

I think you'll need something like the third picture in the top row.. :lol:

In reality..the best thing is probably a pair of bicycle wheels,an axle,a sling for the canoe,and a couple of gunnel straps.. at the balancing midpoint of the canoe..and just a hand strap at the bow.The canoe will be floating before the wheels even get wet.To launch..undo the clamps,lift the bow(while the back of the canoe is floating),and pull the cart/sling out with a piece of cord.
At the midpoint,you don't need to lift anything..
Of course you know that.. :roll: ..just a reminder.My brain is always in McGyvor mode... :lol:
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Re: Next year I'm water hiking

Postby zelph » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:25 pm

Ok, Guyver :D My head is spinning, too many ideas :mrgreen:

I came across a golf bag carrier that has 4" wide wheels that I used for carrying a 3 gal. fertilizer tank. it might work on the transom :idea:

I like the idea of central balancing. I'm thinking on it!!!! :idea:
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