I had to write it over and over. Before editing. After editing.
There was a thread reporting a breakthrough.
Another thread said: I'm a believer, started by a "cold sleeper" of some considerable reputation.
Then the thread reporting the breakthrough was heavily edited, and had no substance whatsoever. Meanwhile, the I'm a believer thread disappeared.
Next, the I'm a believer thread reappeared in a different section.
Meanwhile, a guy was so busy he couldn't send out an order, mine, he said in his PM to me he had them to sell. I specifically asked, are you in startup or do you have them to sell.
The best part, a thread appeared where he announced he was jobbing out two models (including mine) to another vendor in the forum. It is a reasonable belief, he didn't have that model and he had not, yet, even designed that model. It is a more reasonable belief the other vendor would design that model.
He got angry and cancelled my order, when in a different section I was asking questions in a different thread. I got vilified, cussed at (profanity removed, but not before I saw it), threats and I got "ripped".
Next, a new thread appeared: "first test".
Have the videos at the YouTube channel been pulled down, where he and another good pal claim great results?
The "before" and "after" PM's refer to the seller and, apparently, his cohort. It sure looks that way, lying to the last PM.
I guess he thought the I'm a believer thread had been permanently removed. Oh well.
I am having a real problem, now, with any credibility whatsoever coming from "over there". Not UK, or Europe, apologies for the song: Over There.
Not only that, we have the ubiquitous Buddy stove and temperature claims for sleeping warm from Minnesota that are in doubt, at least by me, because that guy make contradictory statements whilst "singing in the chorus" for another product, which makes me think a number of posters over there are poseurs.
Not to highjack a perfectly good thread about whether, or not, it is worthwhile to spend money on small double-wall backpacker wood stoves or keep the proven "hobo stove".
I hate that name: "hobo stove".
How about "the practical backpacker's stove" model, instead.
Single wall or double.
There remains the question: What about the BTU's claimed?
Last edited by ConnieD
on Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.