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Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:44 am
by zelph
Fiddle factoring...... :D people don't seem to mind fiddling with something to get it to work. We can get a quart sized can to boil 2 cups with one filling of wood. The high tech guys that have been producing stoves for 3rd world countries need to put fans on them, something wrong with that picture :D It goes back to the fact that these guys are working for a not for profit companies(having a nice salary for themselves) :D they go through the motions, talk the talk, and in the end they can't sell to the 3rd world folks because they are too poor. They then add a fan to the stove and sell them to the U.S.A.......now that's what I call....free enterprise. You can see the company setting up the piramid style organizations in the 3rd world countries, teach the natives to sell to the elite of the tribes/groups. Paint a rosie picture for their sales force, make a few thousand bucks then move on to the next sucker. .....what?????? :lol: nahhh, I don't trust them. The little beaner stove(world stove) is too good to be true......hahahahaYou pay the 50 bucks and then they tell you to go stick it into a pop can, they can't even furnish the used pop can for 50 smakers. Something wrong with that picture.

Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:09 pm
by realityguy
All I can picture is a couple half naked African natives with handfuls of dung standing in front of their woodgas stoves,scratching their heads trying to figure out what to do because their batteries went dead and their bic lighters are out of fuel. :o


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Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:15 pm
by zelph
realityguy wrote:All I can picture is a couple half naked African natives with handfuls of dung standing in front of their woodgas stoves,scratching their heads trying to figure out what to do because their batteries went dead and their bic lighters are out of fuel. :o


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The early settlers made good use of buffalo chips in the same manner. Out on the prairies, wood was hard to come by.

Do we have it easy or what???????

Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:50 am
by realityguy
The early settlers made good use of buffalo chips in the same manner. Out on the prairies, wood was hard to come by.

Do we have it easy or what???????
Okay..now I see old settlers looking at AAs in their palms,scratching their heads and saying "what the hell are these for?"

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Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:32 am
by hoz
Vibe wrote:
hoz wrote: Ok,$55 bucks! They're pretty proud of that small stove...
Looks like an empty paint can and a $5 fan. Which means for $55 you could build 2 and still paint a good sized room. :DP:

Hahahah.
That's good.

I made and used much the same thing on the Bloodvein River in Canada.

1 coffee can free from the trash.
computer fan from Radio Shack $ 5.00
9V battery $ 2.00
Piece of aluminum foil for duct from trash
Pot supports, 2 steel tent pegs $ 2.00

total $ 9.00

Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:39 pm
by zelph
realityguy wrote:
The early settlers made good use of buffalo chips in the same manner. Out on the prairies, wood was hard to come by.

Do we have it easy or what???????
Okay..now I see old settlers looking at AAs in their palms,scratching their heads and saying "what the hell are these for?"

:lol: :lol: :lol:
They pitched the batteries and did it the old way, used their hat to fan the fire. :DB:

Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:56 am
by Vibe
The Sierra stove is cheaper too.
http://www.zzstove.com/mcart/

Re: another powered woodgas stove

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:31 pm
by zelph
Vibe wrote:The Sierra stove is cheaper too.
http://www.zzstove.com/mcart/
I remember reading that the stove doesn't not draft well with out the fan so you need to be sure to have plenty of batteries for backups. You would have to be good at fuel choice to get a top lit fire going to utilize the basic container.

When we look at the size and fiddle factors of this stove and think of a stove that will burn iso91(and maybe others) the air assist modules weight and size will probably less than what we see in a zip stove. The stove would be smaller for sure. We're not apples and apples here but something to think about regarding fiddle factors.
:D