Personal Protection when on the trail

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Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by zelph » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:01 pm

Most of the areas I spend time are remote and on private property that is bordered by public State and National forests. Access being obtained through working with the Illinois Dept. of Natural Resources and a private Institute devoted to natural land areas. The areas are known to have wild dog packs that form over a periode of years and usually become a menace to populated areas. Once that happens the packs are then searched out and eliminated. I've never come across a pack but have encountered singular homless looking dogs that have given me some concern. I started carrying a small, lightweight personnal protection device in the form of a pen size tear gas gun(pen gun) The catridges are easilly modified to suite my needs. I've done my share of hunting and have had experience in reloading my own shotgun and rifle shells. This practice of modifying is not recommended nor do I endorse it.

Have any of you had the need to carry a personal protection device of any kind?

Here are some photos of the tear gas pen:

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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by oops56 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:19 pm

zelph wrote:Most of the areas I spend time are remote and on private property that is bordered by public State and National forests. Access being obtained through working with the Illinois Dept. of Natural Resources and a private Institute devoted to natural land areas. The areas are known to have wild dog packs that form over a periode of years and usually become a menace to populated areas. Once that happens the packs are then searched out and eliminated. I've never come across a pack but have encountered singular homless looking dogs that have given me some concern. I started carrying a small, lightweight personnal protection device in the form of a pen size tear gas gun(pen gun) The catridges are easilly modified to suite my needs. I've done my share of hunting and have had experience in reloading my own shotgun and rifle shells. This practice of modifying is not recommended nor do I endorse it.

Have any of you had the need to carry a personal protection device of any kind?

Here are some photos of the tear gas pen:

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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by zelph » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:21 pm

:D No rubber bands :lol:
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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by Pure Mahem » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:53 am

Have you tested that Zelph? What does the flame pattern look like, LOL? :mrgreen:
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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by zelph » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:38 am

Pure Mahem wrote:Have you tested that Zelph? What does the flame pattern look like, LOL? :mrgreen:
Looks awsome!!!!

Ole what his name (Turk) should get one of these to ward off unwanted coyotes up there in canada. He's willing to put up $300.00 cash for a bright lite :roll: He's got alot more money than I do for his necessities :mrgreen:
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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by Mags » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:59 pm

Hmm...depending on what kind of health class you took in high school "personal protection" can be construed a few different ways... Ahem.

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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by zelph » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:30 pm

Mags wrote:Hmm...depending on what kind of health class you took in high school "personal protection" can be construed a few different ways... Ahem.

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:lol: :lol: I would think that the AT users would have thought that also :lol:
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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by samh » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:03 am

Closest I come to personal protection is a 12 oz. container of bear spray that comes with me on some trips. I've seen folks packing .357 and .44 sidearms up trails before but I honestly don't know why. A can of bear spray is going to deter an animal just as well as a bullet and you won't have to go to court and plead self defense after you use it on a griz.

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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by zelph » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:25 pm

samh wrote:Closest I come to personal protection is a 12 oz. container of bear spray that comes with me on some trips. I've seen folks packing .357 and .44 sidearms up trails before but I honestly don't know why. A can of bear spray is going to deter an animal just as well as a bullet and you won't have to go to court and plead self defense after you use it on a griz.
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This spring I was confronted by a mangy lookin tan colored pitbull. I had just arrive back at my car after being out for a 3 night whack. I'm in a remote area. The dogs hunger no doubt has eliminated it's inhibitions and is coming in closer to take a chunk out of me or see if I'm a threat. I yelled at the dog in my loudest voice "GO LAY DOWN" several times I did that letting the dog know that I was a threat ;) . This process worked for me one time before when I was about to be eaten alive by a very large mixed breed JunkYard Dog at a local junk yard.(long story) Don't try this on a grizzly :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

On 2 occasions I have had some questionable looking guys look at me in an unusual manner(facial expressions showing guilt/untrustworthy something like that) The midwest has it's characters ;)
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Re: Personal Protection when on the trail

Post by sarbar » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:07 pm

Now boys, a true UL'er would carry this:
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( Lol....I think what is scary is I have seen a female ranger with one over her chest, a 45 on her thigh and she was running uphill at maybe 3 mph. I got respect for that :D )

Myself in real life? I carry a Kimber 45, officer size or a Springfield XD 9mm compact. It weighs too much but ah well. I also carry pepper spray - that is in my pocket at all times. Pepper spray is my first choice - it works wonders on dogs, though if in an area with stray dogs I would have a couple of them with me - they are cheap and very UL to carry.
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